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After complaining about a
service last year, in which the wrong service was carried out(!), I
complained to head office and got a response from their "new"
service manager. He apologized for the "incontinence" I
experienced. I think he meant "incompetence", but the letter
will be used in any future problems encountered with Arnold Clark Fiat,
Aberdeen - who to be fair, have been extremely helpful since. .
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I have been arguing with Arnold
Clark for 6 months now. But today I have a digital recording of my
telephone conversation with Alistair Craig. A name I'm sure you are well
aware of. I'm going to the papers today 28/5/02 if you want to have your
story put together with my case please e-mail [email protected]
with your details. if anyone has went down this route and has some advice
please feel free to share that too..
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Superb site ! I wish that I had the good fortune to find
it before buying my car. I used to work for Arnold for the grand total
of 6 months in the Hamilton road branch in the sales dept. yes I know I
should have known better. but from what I have seen the forging of
customer signatures the forging of service books. all they are doing is
marking in the dates and mileages and then stamping it up in one session
then passing the book around to get the service records.
I got my car from Rannoch Drive Renault branch in
Milngavie. below are some of the problems the service manager then had
the audacity to call me up at my office to start shouting down the phone
with the words " if you ever go to my head office again I'll tell
them that you asked me to cook the books. " he then proceeded to do
so when I called the dealership manager and told him that I wanted him
to fit a cd player against an insurance claim. Two problems with this.
I already have a CD player in my car as standard.
All my calls are recorded and he basically shot him self
in the foot.
another three months of wrangling led to my handing in a
pack of everything including correspondence to Arnold Clark himself. I
then called Alasdair Craig the " customer service " manager at
the head office to see if they had received everything for me. the
response I got was that Arnold himself said that it didn't warrant a
response. nothing. again I have this recorded and downloaded to my ipaq
for anyone to hear.
1.) when car was picked up it was not
valeted,
didn't have the mats
in it as specified
Didn't have
the full tank of fuel as specified
window rubber
seal was broken.
All of the
above was sorted at the garage after a further 2 trips
2.) rattle from the exhaust causing
high static shock with the doors were touched ( 4 trips to get this
resolved )
the problem
has now returned.
3.) leak coming in the back door ( two
visits to the garage to amend this issue )
4.) I work 13hrs a day mon - fri. so I
need a courtesy car I have only been given one all the other times I
have been told that they didn't have a note that I requested one even
although I had double checked before my visits to the garage. But they
did say that I could rent one. Isn't this against what they have agreed
with Renault?
5.) At motorway
speeds the vibration causes a rattle somewhere above the drivers head (
I suspect that this is due to foul play by the garage as the last time I
took the car their the rubber seal around the door was now separated
from the roof lining. I think they have put something up there like a
loose screw. I don't trust them to go back )
6.) The service manager at
the dealership came on shouting and threatening me on the phone at my
office for contact his customer services for the above. even although I
didn't even mention his name as he had been quite nice before that. (
this was recorded on my office CTI telephony system )
7.) Spoke to the dealership manager
about this who didn't apologize for his staffs actions and didn't give a
very satisfactory answer stating that it must have been some kind of mix
up.
8.) I damaged an alloy wheel and took
it in for a quote to be repaired. they quoted £1000 but after the above
incident said it was just a new wheel. 1 month later the wheel bearing
went ( the car has less that 20k miles ) this means that I couldn't
claim against the roads dept for this meaning I am out of pocket. I
still haven't had time to get it fixed because I work from am to lop in
two jobs Monday to Friday.
What I am going to do now is contact
watchdog. although I need seven other complaints. if you wish to put you
file across to this please e-mail me on [email protected]
I will post further details once watchdog comeback to me
personally with what I need to do.
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I WAS GOING TO BUY A CAR FROM
ARNOLD TOMORROW, BUT THANKS TO YOUR SITE I HAVE SAVED £15000 AND POOR
ARNOLD HAS JUST LOST A CUSTOMER. PLEASE DON'T SHED A TEAR FOR ME, I WILL
GET A BETTER DEAL ELSEWHERE. MANY THANKS.
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Hi,
Great site, I bought a Vauxhall Vectra from AC Kilmarnock
with 13,000 miles on the clock. All was well until I took delivery and
registered with DVLA and to my surprise it came back 1st owner was a
security company, this has also been the case from my mate who bought a
306 at the same time.
Also the second gear would jump out of gear no and again
probably because it had been hammered by about 300 security guards .
Never again will I buy from AC who rip people off and
sell ex fleet cars as one owner cars.
ps I also never received my service owners manual mmmmmmm.
Have now sold car privately.
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great website.... when I
bought my 1998 fiat Punto in Jan 02, I received one broken tattered blue key. Prior to the sales, the salesgirl promised to deliver the red (master) key within 2 weeks..... it took two months for her to tell me that she couldn't get the key, nor anyone who could do a spare key for me. My fiancé and I searched for 15 minutes in the yellow pages and found a locksmith who would do a spare key for us in Dundee. Little did we know at that time, how important the master key is. Four months after we bought the car, the battery went flat, and we called the AA and found out about the importance of the red key. After another 3-4 weeks of constantly calling the girl in Arnold Clark, and finally after threatening them with a report to the trading standards, we finally got the key in 3-4 days. The silly annoying salesgirl who knows nothing about everything, and the stupid, rude and pompous 'manager' did not say sorry at all for all the INCONVENIENCE they caused us. And..... a few weeks after buying the car, the driver door wouldn't close properly, the headlights were not aligned properly, the fan was noisy, the exhaust split into two (they refused to repair this), the windscreen washer was not working properly..... etc etc etc.... by the way, we bought a repair and breakdown guarantee (395 GBP for two years) which was a rip off... it did not cover anything! And.... the workers at the Vauxhall branch Dundee and fiat branch Perth are all extremely RUDE, incompetent..... and amazingly stupid. We still haven't received the radio, key and immobilizer cards.... hopefully we are much wiser now in buying our second car.... and give us anyone but Arnold shark and the silly salesgirl. I really wish that future victims of Arnold Clark could read this first....
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Having bought Daewoo for
sometime I'm appalled to find Arnold has taken on the Franchise in
Glasgow. Now I get silly things "replaced" under warranty eg
door locking activators which never gave me any problem...but the main
difference is trying to phone them, previously the Daewoo Service
was answered right away. recently I spent three days trying to contact
them. left my contact number 6 times and nobody phoned back. I liked
Daewoo there was never any pressure to buy...What You Saw Is What You Got.
an real honest deal, now Arnold has got into it I doubt if I'll be back..
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I picked a ford escort estate
from Arnolds in Motherwell. After the sales patter a price was fixed we
agreed and went home. My wife did her own sums and found out he was in
fact overcharging us by £280 pounds. Next day we went back in and told
the salesman this he said after much doodling with calculator we was
right, so promised a cheque would be sitting day we picked up car. When we
went to pick up car was told no check one of the head boys was on holiday
and needed 2 signitures,so us being naive said okay and took car. After 3
days went back in an got told definitely next week. so went back the next
week got told no chance and as they had sold my trade in an 8 days had
passed with nothing in writing we would just have to lump it. .
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My wife and I drove all the way from Falkirk to Linwood to see a car that we were promised was "minted" we had previously paid the salesman £100 so that he would keep the car for us to view, on paying this £100 I insisted on a written agreement that the £100 would be paid back to us should we decide not to purchase the car, this was agreed. when we went to look at the car it was falling to bits, a 51 plate Vauxhall Vectra with 14000 miles on the clock, he wanted £11.000 rust showing through where someone had removed a badge. the front under the lights had been painted black recently I suspect to cover up more rust. there were paint chips all over the bonnet etc etc. plus a few other things. however we decided not to buy the car and asked for our "100 deposit back, "Oh, I can't get access to the safe today" was the reply from the salesman, his attitude changed as soon as it was apparent that he was not going to get a sale out of us. "I will post you a cheque next week" he said. well guess what ? its next week already and you can guess what else ? still no cheque! I'll give him until next week to come up with the goods then its off to see my legal representative and as I have a couple of witnesses and the written agreement that I would get my cash back Mr. Clark better pay up or he will end up in the small claims courts again. I will keep you posted on the developments and if you want my name and address just let me know by return e-mail. Second part. I went back to the Linwood Vauxhall on the Wednesday to ask where the money was. he told me it was in the post ( yeah) on the Thursday I still did not have the cheque so I went back again to Linwood. they gave me a cheque there and then. now whatever happened to the cheque in the post ? you tell me cause it still hasn't turned up in my letterbox. my view is it was never in the post and the salesman is a friggin liar.
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I bought a brand new astra from
Arnold Clarks in Glasgow. Guess what it had major engine problems!! Three
times the RAC lifted and took it to Glasgow, it should have had the engine
replaced (free) from Vauxhall's factory, but Arnie's foreman said no.
Strip it down and rebuild it!! and that's what they did twice. Got rid of
it as soon as I could. Buy a car from Arnie? Never again
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